When you think of former Vice President Mike Pence, the image that usually pops into your visual cortex is that of a rather mild-mannered individual who doesn’t really seem to get angry all that much or express a lot of negative emotions. He’s certainly not the type to speak ill of someone. Well…not usually anyway.
Which is why it’s shocking that Pence took an opportunity during an interview with ABC News host David Muir to completely rake former President Donald Trump over the coals, saying that he “endangered me and my family and everyone at the Capitol building,” during the riot at the Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021.
“The president’s words were reckless and his actions were reckless,” Pence stated during the interview, revealing his anger at the former commander-in-chief.
“It was clear he decided to be part of the problem,” Pence continued, according to the New York Post.
“Pence, 63, made clear that he feels Trump’s refusal to admit he lost the 2020 election put him in danger as he told fired-up supporters to ‘fight like hell’ and head to the Capitol as Pence was overseeing Congress’ certification of the results,” the Post stated.
Trump has maintained the claim that Pence could have easily overturned the results of the election. Many of the individuals who were storming the Capitol building were shouting, “Hang Mike Pence,” while putting up gallows, which then led to the vice president fleeing the building.
“The president’s words that day at the rally endangered me and my family and everyone at the Capitol building,” Pence went on to tell Muir in an interview that will air in full on Monday.
During the interview, Pence breathed rather heavily and looked clearly distraught when he was asked about Trump’s initial tweet concerning the chaos that broke out that day, even as members were “barricaded inside the House chamber.”
Muir then reminded the former vice president that the message said, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.”
After a rather lengthy 8-second pause, Pence responded by saying the post “angered me.”
“But I turned to my daughter, who was standing nearby, and I said, ‘It doesn’t take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law,’” he then stated concerning his decision to stand against Trump’s push that the results of the election were not legitimate.
“I mean the president’s words were reckless,” he stated a second time.
During the siege, Pence said he spoke a number of officials — including the joint chiefs of staff, the attorney general, and the chief of the Capitol police — but not the president himself.
When Pence as asked “where was the president in all of this,” Pence replied by saying, “I can’t account for what the president was doing that day. I was at a loading dock at the Capitol, where a riot was taking place.”
Pence was also asked why Trump was watching the whole mess on television from the White House and not making calls, to which he diplomatically responded by saying “That’d be a good question for him.”