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WATCH: Tarlov And Watters Clash Over Trump’s Iran Strategy On ‘The Five’
A fiery exchange on Fox News’ The Five put the split over President Donald Trump’s Iran strategy on full display this week, as co-hosts Jesse Watters and Jessica Tarlov battled over whether the administration’s military campaign is a show of strength or a dangerous gamble. Fox posted a segment featuring Watters praising Trump’s foreign policy record amid the opening phase of Operation Epic Fury, the Pentagon’s newly announced military operation against Iran.
The clash came as the White House and Pentagon continue to project confidence about the mission. Trump announced the start of Operation Epic Fury, framing the campaign as a move to eliminate Iran’s missile and nuclear threat. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth later described the operation’s goals as “laser-focused,” saying the mission is aimed at destroying Iranian offensive missiles, missile production, naval capabilities and related security infrastructure while ensuring the regime never obtains nuclear weapons.
On The Five, Watters forcefully defended Trump’s approach and argued the president has acted decisively where previous administrations hesitated. Tarlov, however, pushed back on the celebratory tone and signaled that it is far too early to declare victory.
“If you think that going after a theocracy like this, made up of religious lunatics, where you cut off one head and a hundred more sprout out, is the same, it just makes you look stupid,” Tarlov said.
“It’s not the same!” Watters interrupted.
“STOP, Jesse! Get your hand down!” Tarlov screamed.
“You are CRAZY! This is like the State of the Union. They are CRAZY!” Watters jabbed back.
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The backdrop to their sparring is Operation Midnight Hammer, the military strike aimed at crippling Iran’s nuclear ambitions by targeting the Fordow facility. U.S. officials have touted this operation as a success, employing precision-guided munitions to inflict serious damage.
The implications of this strike stretch far and wide, igniting discussions on everything from military effectiveness to future diplomatic relations with Iran.
The fight on The Five also revived a familiar Fox dynamic, with Watters and Tarlov serving as stand-ins for the country’s deeper divide over war, media narratives and Trump himself. Grabien separately captured another recent exchange between the two over whether Trump had followed Israel’s lead on attacking Iran, showing the issue has become a recurring flashpoint on the program.
Watters later defended the operation vigorously, characterizing it as a decisive victory. He referenced Senator Lindsey Graham’s comments, asserting, “This was obliteration by the definition in the dictionary… they were obliterated.”
The Pentagon’s release of videos aimed to bolster this perception, showcasing the technical savvy of the military and the years of careful intelligence work that culminated in the strike.
The conflict with Iran is still ongoing today and appears to be entering a more dangerous phase. One of the biggest developments is that Mojtaba Khamenei has now been elevated as Iran’s new supreme leader. President Trump has said the campaign is nearly complete, arguing that Iran’s military capabilities, including its navy, communications systems, and air force, have taken major damage.
Even so, he has stopped short of committing U.S. ground troops to enter Iran, which suggests the administration is still trying to avoid a larger, more direct war on the ground.
